Flagger training won't guarantee job

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Looking for a job and a big paycheck, Lacy Ledahl, 19, took a class in Soldotna a couple years ago to become a certified flagger.

After paying about $90 to take the class, she was told nobody currently was hiring flaggers, Ledahl said. She said she has given up on the idea of getting a job as a flagger.

According to a local labor union, Ledahl’s experience was not unique.

Frustrated Southcentral Alaska union officials say companies that train flaggers mislead people who have a small chance of finding a flagging job after they get certified.

Two flagging instructors from Wasilla who hold flagging classes on the Kenai Peninsula every spring say they are just giving people tools to get a job. What they do after taking the course is out of instructors’ hands.

"I discourage most people for signing up (for flagging classes)," said Blake Johnson, president of Laborers Local 341, the labor union that represents workers in the construction industry in Southcentral Alaska.

Flaggers direct traffic at construction sites and are required to obtain certification from the American Traffic Safety Services Association before they are hired.

Johnson said right now there are about 30 flagging jobs on the Kenai Peninsula, adding that the number of flaggers employed on the peninsula would probably never exceed 50 union and nonunion jobs.

He said he never blames a person for looking for work but is frustrated that companies keep training people when chances of getting employed as a flagger are slim.

Between Kenai, Soldotna and Homer, there are about 370 certified flaggers, according to ATSSA’s flagging Web site. There are more than 500 certified flaggers on the peninsula.

Wasilla-based instructors Doris Coy and Jackie Rupnik charged students $100 to take a class held on an afternoon in mid-May in Kenai. Coy owns Wasilla-based Northern Dames, a traffic control, excavation and training company.

Ledahl, the person who did not find work as a flagger, said she could not remember the name of the company that certified her.

Coy said they hold classes in Kenai and elsewhere around the state every spring. But Rupnik said job placement is not part of their business.

"Whatever you do with (the training) is up to you after you leave here," Rupnik said.

She equated the training to a four-year college. People get their training and then are on their own when they finish.

Johnson said the situation is not comparable to a four-year college. People who receive college degrees have possibilities for hundreds of jobs when they graduate. Flagger training qualifies people for a specific and limited job, he said.

"They are training on false hopes," said Mike Gallagher, business manager, secretary and treasurer for Laborers Local 341.

When people want a job through the union, they need to get on a union list, Johnson said. When any given position opens, he said he starts taking people from the list. Right now, he has about 25 people waiting for employment as a flagger.

Johnson said he has discouraged many people from getting on the list. He said he gets about 20 calls per week from people looking for flagging work.

"I have not taken any more people in at this point," he said.

Johnson said people are drawn to this job because they hear tales of easy work and high pay. He said a union flagger’s total compensation package with benefits comes to $36 per hour. But even when somebody gets hired as a flagger, the hours are infrequent and the work is difficult, he said.

Patti Curry, traffic supervisor for Wilder Construction, said she used to teach flagging courses but did not feel good taking people’s money when there were no available jobs. She no longer teaches.

"It’s really a disappointment that these companies lead people to believe they are going to get a job," Curry said. "It’s not right."

She said some companies even convince pupils to purchase flagging gear while many companies provide it.

Rosi Johnson, a flagger for Wilder Construction, said a girl recently stopped by the Soldotna bridge project looking for a flagging position. The girl informed Johnson that instructors told her that if she purchased flagging equipment, prospects for finding a job would be better. Johnson said the girl told her she had purchased about $300 worth of equipment.

Coy said when she teaches courses, she has flagging equipment for sale. She said she always informs students they do not have to purchase equipment to find a job.

"Most people, when they flag, like to have their own equipment so they’re ready to go to work," Coy said.

05/21/2005 - 8:00pm